
My column this month in the Syracuse Post Standard suggested we tear down the obsolete and empty buildings from the 1960s and 70s in downtown Syracuse, and replace them with open lots and an occasional parking garage. These sad and sorry concrete boxes are a form of blight, they have virtually no hope of ever being filled by any company large or small, the cost to convert them into residential living space is exhorbitant, and even then, the buildings are still ugly.
South Warren Street has the bulk of these structures, with an abandoned bank building on every block of our former financial center. Only one of them, a magnificent stone treasure with soaring corinthian columns, looks like anything one would want to step into or walk beside.
The percentage of constructive, thoughtful comments which agreed with my position was about equal to those that did not; the difference being that the negatives were posted on Syracuse.com and the positives were sent by email to me directly. A pack mentality dominates the public comments and once a tone is set, few readers will challenge that tone or risk getting personally attacked along with me. So I have included some excerpts of the emails which conclude it is time to consider a more user-friendly downtown environment.
I totally agree with your concept. I was at The Yates the last night it was open and I still shake mind my head in disgust every time I look at that lot. Why keep non historic ugly out of date buildings when there is no demand for them and no where to park even if you do find an odd use for them. I like the word “odd” here. It suggests that any future use of these scary buildings will be a real stretch.
I read, with enthusiasm, your article in this morning’s paper. I own a business in Armory Square and am reminded constantly by my customer base that parking is almost nonexistent in the area. It is the reason soooo many folks do not come downtown to shop.
I tended to disagree with them, always pointing to the fact that there were lots like the Trolley lot behind the MOST, the open lot across from Kitty Hoynes, the Atrium garage, etc.
These days, however, with the Trolley lot out of commission for at least two years because of the construction of the underground sewage storage facility; the Atrium garage full because of all the spots being sold to National Grid and O’Brien and Gere; and the open lot now the site of construction of two Marriott hotels, I tend to agree with my customers.
Your idea is fantastic! If I personally had the funds, I would purchase one of those buildings, raze it, and do a parking facility!
I have been told by a few local developers that parking lots or garages are NOT profitable ventures. Maybe this is why there is little parking in an area of downtown that is begging for it, and truly, whose success depends on it!
I agree with you. When I moved to Syracuse in 1969, I lived downtown (“How can you live downtown?” people asked, appalled). I walked to Sibley’s, Flah’s, the Addis Company, Dey’s, Wells & Coverly and many other places to shop. When my family grew, I moved to the east side of town (“How can you live in the city?” people asked, appalled.) I returned to downtown Syracuse to shop….but now, I had to pay to park! And even if I made a purchase, I still had to pay to park. The same stores existed at Shoppingtown, with acres of free parking. Guess where I went to shop?? And guess what happened to all those downtown stores, where nobody went to shop anymore because who wants to pay a surcharge for parking? So build those parking garages! Charge for parking! But if someone patronizes a downtown merchant, or dines in a downtown restaurant, or attends a downtown arts event – validate their parking ticket and let them park for free or for a discounted rate that increases the more time they spend making downtown Syracuse a vital and vibrant place to live, to work, to eat and to shop
I just had the opportunity to read the above article and I was so happy to see that someone is of the same mind that I have been talking about for over forty years. When I came to Syracuse and married a Northsider and settled in Eastwood, I was always amazed at how the city would tear down the beautiful houses on James Street and build square ugly flat rooftop office buildings that now are mostly unoccupied. Then to make matters even worst the would take parking lots downtown, build a high rise building on the lot, thus eliminating parking availability and wonder why no one goes downtown. I’ve thought for years that they should tear down some of these eyesores and provide parking with green spaces, such as parks with grass and trees. I hope that the people in power to make these choices give it some serious thought. As I previously mentioned, I live in Eastwood and always dread the thought of going downtown because I have no idea where to find available parking. Case in point the new hotel to be built across the road from Katey Hoynes on parking lot that I have used to go to that restaurant. I hope your ideas take root and move the powers to be to consider your proposals.
Maureen I ..agree with you. Although I would propose more open space and less garages. We can add the garages to the open lots as necessary. For now we need to make downtown an appealing place to be. Open space with restaurants that have patio seating facing gardens and parks is critical. Here, here! The open lots would handle festival parking, or become a mini-festival in themselves. They could provide a setting for the many “pop-up restaurants” so popular in other cities right now. An open, landscaped lot holds many possibilities for downtown.
Interestingly, my primary motivation in tearing down the obsolete buildings is to clear the way for smarter, more useful development in the future. The parking lots would be temporary, such as what happened in Armory Square. One former parking lot was taken over for Creekwalk. Another lot will become the new Marriot Hotel. Parking has never been more challenging in Armory Square than it is right now, and still, everybody goes. You won’t find a single obsolete concrete nightmare anywhere near there. Every building in the district is historic or visually appealing, or both.
I believe open, landscaped lots are more attractive to people than empty buildings, and when developers see the feet on the ground, they will put up a building to make money off those feet. Few things are worse for an urban center than a building that is too big and too unsightly for what people demand today. An entire street of them will spell doom for South Warren Street for decades.
One of the emails I received after my column really got my attention, and I’ll write about that next time.